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US stocks still sliding

By   || June 4, 2010 at 16:05 GMT
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S&P now down 2.35%.  EUR/USD slips back under 1.2000, presently at 1.1990.

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85 Responses to “US stocks still sliding”

  1. Daniel on June 4th, 2010 16:08 GMT

    Where is next support? I am lost :)

  2. jy on June 4th, 2010 16:20 GMT

    just short all the way. LOL

  3. hart on June 4th, 2010 16:22 GMT

    huh? what? jy please enlighten us!

  4. PIP COLLECTOR on June 4th, 2010 16:25 GMT

    IF EUR/USD IS NOT RECOVERING, IT WILL RECOVER NEXTWEEK BEFORE DIVING DOWN.

  5. jy on June 4th, 2010 16:27 GMT

    LOL! wad enlighten? juz my two cents worth.. for the past two weeks friday nights have been bearish.. just short it all the way! =D for me SL 1.2030.. fibo TP 1.15.. heh..

  6. John on June 4th, 2010 16:27 GMT

    Gerry, it’s amazing that a small Caribbean Island like Hungary could cause such a fuss….

  7. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 16:29 GMT

    Excellent forecast, PC. Great minds think alike. Cheers!!

  8. fms on June 4th, 2010 16:29 GMT

    You mean an atoll in the arctic ocean like Malta? ;)

  9. fms on June 4th, 2010 16:30 GMT

    Rise to 1.2125 or something, before taking the abyssal probe into the 15s…

  10. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 16:33 GMT

    Hey pip collector, your caps lock key must be on. If you are yelling at us, leave it on. Otherwise, it is rather rude. Cheers!

  11. jy on June 4th, 2010 16:33 GMT

    prolly fms.. the rebounds from 1.19900 doesnt seem fast and furious.. which means next week its bound to go down into that area.. no matter how the good the rebound north is by the end of tonite..

  12. hart on June 4th, 2010 16:34 GMT

    Oh I’ll pass you off to the eur/usd expert (jy) I’m sure he can throw some toys in your crib. Jake!

  13. jy on June 4th, 2010 16:36 GMT

    erm.. i’m sure you’ll be a millionaire by now if you reverse-trades all my eurusd trades =D

  14. Bear on June 4th, 2010 16:37 GMT
  15. hart on June 4th, 2010 16:37 GMT

    Been there done that mental midget!

  16. Gerry Davies on June 4th, 2010 16:38 GMT

    Yes John, good old Hungary, Who would have thought it.

  17. Adam on June 4th, 2010 16:39 GMT

    This market is pathetic. Hungary doesn’t even use the euro. Everyone buying the fiat currency!!!!

  18. John on June 4th, 2010 16:43 GMT

    Who’s next? The Faroe Islands?

  19. John on June 4th, 2010 16:44 GMT

    Fiji?

  20. Taylor on June 4th, 2010 16:44 GMT

    This EURUSD meltdown is quite overdone. If it breaks below 1.1950, I’m a buyer of EURUSD, who else?

    On another note, this large down move may be corrected by a large gap open on Monday.

  21. John on June 4th, 2010 16:45 GMT

    Dontknowwhereitisastan?

  22. fms on June 4th, 2010 16:45 GMT

    So much the better to short it…

  23. jy on June 4th, 2010 16:50 GMT

    uh uh.. the hourly candle doesnt look optimistic for bears… gogo bears!! *bear punch*

  24. Yale on June 4th, 2010 17:05 GMT

    Well we have a very important weekly support line coming into play around 1.19 hit Dec, Feb, and May on the way down. If that guy breaks today or next week lookout below!

  25. jy on June 4th, 2010 17:23 GMT

    Rise to 1.2125 or something, before taking the abyssal probe into the 15s…

    wow n1 FMS

  26. fms on June 4th, 2010 17:23 GMT

    hum?

  27. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:28 GMT

    eur/aud looks ripe for the pickin.

  28. jy on June 4th, 2010 17:28 GMT

    hmm.. ok prolly not.. yet.. haha..

  29. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:40 GMT

    moving into usd/jpy long small order @ 91.678

  30. southernjam on June 4th, 2010 17:40 GMT

    ur right hart about eur/aud….4580 perhaps?

  31. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:43 GMT

    hope so s/j glad I covered my eur/yen buys with some gold short term. Cheers

  32. Bear on June 4th, 2010 17:44 GMT

    91.40 channel support usdjpy

  33. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:45 GMT

    Thanks bear.

  34. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:51 GMT

    Those double tops @ 1.4730 are in the back of mind though s/j eur/aud. It’s temping for the carry.

  35. hart on June 4th, 2010 17:57 GMT

    aud/jpy is @ that fibi 50% again. long or short?

  36. Bear on June 4th, 2010 18:01 GMT

    leave it prefer lower to 75.00

  37. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 18:02 GMT

    Where is Tajul?? Really miss his posts.

  38. Bear on June 4th, 2010 18:02 GMT

    shud correlate with 1066 s+p

  39. hart on June 4th, 2010 18:05 GMT

    between you(bear) and JR there might just be a diploma in the future!

  40. fms on June 4th, 2010 18:11 GMT

    taj is job-swamped under, will be back next week or so…

  41. Tajul Akbar Bin Ismail on June 4th, 2010 19:42 GMT

    Hello everyone, been busy with work … sorry can’t contribute as I use to

  42. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 19:45 GMT

    Taj, you should just short fiber and quit your job. Easy trade all the way!! Instant millionaire for the career trade.

  43. Tajul Akbar Bin Ismail on June 4th, 2010 19:49 GMT

    Hello JAKE, I still put Sell Stops on EURUSD (got 70 pips today) … but the EURUSD will not go down forever

  44. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 19:55 GMT

    No it won’t go down forever. Next week is critical. We are now at an inflection point. If we drop a bit more, then its a big sell. Any positive momentum next week up will result in a change in fiber sentiment and it will turn slightly bullish. Critical week coming up.

  45. PIP COLLECTOR on June 4th, 2010 19:56 GMT

    NEXT WEEK IT WILL BE BACK TO 1.2310

  46. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 19:57 GMT

    WE HEAR YOU, DON’T SCREAM!!

  47. Tajul Akbar Bin Ismail on June 4th, 2010 19:59 GMT

    Good luck JAKE, I’m done for the day gonna sleep … have a good weekend all

  48. JAKE on June 4th, 2010 19:59 GMT

    Actually, topside is 2350.

  49. Bear on June 4th, 2010 20:05 GMT

    ok guys ive had enough fr this week – thanks Gerry fr the great work,, take care

  50. JR on June 4th, 2010 20:32 GMT

    Have a great weekend, all. And thanks again Gerry, Jamie, Sean and Peter for everything

  51. hart on June 4th, 2010 20:59 GMT

    a b ean for me jr

  52. hart on June 4th, 2010 21:05 GMT

    too soon or too late JR. small joke.

  53. hart on June 4th, 2010 21:14 GMT

    109.457 is the benchmark for eur/jpy. I was right about the 109.5 . I still have all those buy orders will blend and use accordingly.Bought some aud/jpy down low.

  54. JR on June 4th, 2010 21:38 GMT

    i need more sleep, hart, because i missed it!

  55. DC on June 6th, 2010 10:09 GMT

    why you buying hart? was it just a quick scalp? cos im thinking about selling before the open anticipating a gap down. im also expecting a big down week for yen pairs, perhaps even a big figure in audjpy!

  56. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 12:25 GMT

    I see at least 105.00 in EurJpy this week

  57. jahed on June 6th, 2010 13:23 GMT

    prob see a gap up in eur@usd as its alraedy at 1:2017

  58. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 13:41 GMT

    Euro 1.2000+ ? Stop dreaming…. http://www.oanda.com/currency/real-time-rates

  59. fms on June 6th, 2010 14:34 GMT

    hi there loouise, a temp gap up isn’t that far fetched as we could see some buying in the asian session later on… i wouldn’t mind a chance to get me some usd afeter having dumped all of them except those in stocks last friday. good profit, now i’m holding jpy only, need 108 or even better, 105.

  60. jahed on June 6th, 2010 14:45 GMT

    we might have a small rally in eur@usd begining of week, cause i think it is quite oversold…….we wait n see

  61. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 14:52 GMT

    Oversold with the right fundamental reasons for such equals weakness not oversold conditions. I would agree with oversold if we got semi-okay jobs data on Friday but the numbers were disgusting. We got nothing positive out of G20 this weekend. Hungary is added to the Europe worry plate. Why should the markets rally? No reason at all

  62. fms on June 6th, 2010 15:02 GMT

    i am thinking, if eurusd to drop further to 1.1630 then buy now, which in large enough numbers could cause a slight gap up, maybe 1.2080, 1.2120 – entry point… at the same time usdjpy is looking bearish with 90.53 support break to aim for 88 key… all good cooking stuff for tonight.

  63. SteveM on June 6th, 2010 17:47 GMT

    so now it’s PHIIGS instead of PIIGS? :)

  64. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 19:07 GMT

    Euro down 20 pips in interbank trade: http://www.oanda.com/currency/real-time-rates :-)

  65. PIP COLLECTOR on June 6th, 2010 19:16 GMT

    eur/usd went down as low as 1.1916 in oanda.

  66. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 19:33 GMT

    I plan to cover my EurJpy at around 107.00 during the Asia session

  67. fms on June 6th, 2010 19:42 GMT

    i still think (hope…) for a 160-200 pip pop then re-tank. if >= 1.21 at european open then i’m back in.

  68. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 19:44 GMT
  69. fms on June 6th, 2010 19:46 GMT

    loouise, what’s your time frame?

  70. think on June 6th, 2010 20:05 GMT

    loouise you’d better close your position in Asia session,
    you may see 112 level in european session

  71. fms on June 6th, 2010 20:07 GMT

    my point precisely…

  72. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 20:10 GMT

    250 pips jump based on what? oversold? please…stop dreaming. G-20 was an absolute joke this weekend. Terrorism is back on the US agenda. US retail sales probably will show more slowing due to less hiring – the market is going to cue off a lower than expected retail sales report this week. Just like the market went up Thursday in anticipation of a hood jobs report. We see 107.00 for sure. Good Luck

  73. thinktt on June 6th, 2010 20:26 GMT

    Loouise here my points

    The new Japaneese PM is supporting weak yen so they may not allow yen appreciate further against euro. If you look at eur jpy level it is way below the level when eurusd traded around this level.

    Furthermore, the market partcipants might think that hungary is not as bad as greece.This will bring short squueze

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/46a51202-7167-11df-8eec-00144feabdc0.html

    Hungary denies fiscal crisis
    By Chris Bryant in Vienna
    Published: June 6 2010 15:11 | Last updated: June 6 2010 16:26
    Hungary on Saturday attempted to distance itself from claims that it was facing a Greek-style fiscal crisis, as the government indicated it was not in danger of default and would strive to meet this year’s deficit target.

    Mihaly Varga, state secretary, described as “exaggerated” comments by fellow Fidesz party officials that the economy was in a “grave” situation and could experience a fate similar to Athens.

  74. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 20:29 GMT

    Ever hear a country admit to poor fiscal discipline? Fact is until we get some good solid news we will continue to go down HARD

  75. John McConnell on June 6th, 2010 20:30 GMT

    Loouise I think you are 100% right about 107 in the next six to eight hours, but I do think there will be a 200 to 300 pip spike during Europe for no other reason than that’s how these markets work. I have been short sense 113.75 and I plan to cover at 107 or close to it and then buy a huge lot at the same price. I think this pair will be an easy mark for a 1,200 pip profit over the next couple of days.

  76. Tony on June 6th, 2010 20:34 GMT

    Great points thinkft, but Louise is right in that the G20 was not definitive or resolving. The thing that really concerns me is the unwinding of Asian carry trades which in turn may be the catalyst to take us down to the all important 1.1650 in EUR. Whatever happens, risk reward has taken a turn for the worse and liquidity from here on will only get worse.

  77. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 20:36 GMT

    John, so you think we dip 200 pips and then go up 200 pips for a net of zero pips? I can dig that…that is of course based on the assumption that more bad news does not come out.

  78. fms on June 6th, 2010 20:38 GMT

    A lot is hinging on how usdjpy will fare as well, I think. Here seems to be where opinions diverge the most.

  79. thinktt on June 6th, 2010 20:38 GMT

    It ıs your call Loousise I can only respect your thougths. But believe japan’s fiscal discipline is not perfect. As bad news come yen strenghth is not sustainable because recession means less exports for Japan. and bear in mind that short position in yen is not ata fraction of what it used tobe in 2007. Therefore, don’t expect sharp short covering rally in yen when risk trade is off.

    I would be more comfardable to hold short position in aud/usd rather than eur/jpy in such a situation

  80. fms on June 6th, 2010 20:40 GMT

    thinktt, one thing however i have to concede, EUR will drop to 1.1650 and then 1.12 versus usd, that seems for sure, and it cannot do so without dropping vs jpy as well.

  81. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 20:42 GMT

    Thnktt, you do know that there are many out there who are calling Japan the next Greece, right? Yen will be in a super-rally mode until Kan and his crew can present something presentable – lol

  82. fms on June 6th, 2010 20:44 GMT

    so, any takes on usdjpy? 93 or 88?

  83. thinktt on June 6th, 2010 20:48 GMT

    Yes I know loouise that’s why I am sceptical about eur/jpy short positions.

  84. Loouise on June 6th, 2010 20:48 GMT

    IMO, yen was more notable than Euro in terms of velocity and market impact on Friday

  85. littlejohn on June 7th, 2010 02:02 GMT

    Good call JY!

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